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#91306 - 03/06/04 10:02 PM Re: Danger / Risks to Hare Scrambles vs. Motocross [Re: Chappy]
Neo Offline
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Registered: 02/16/04
Posts: 146
Loc: Houston


I definitely say that supercross is probably more dangerous.
But a milder track than supercross track... compared to racing throught the trees....hmmm
Those pretty close....I would bet..

I will give both a shot...hopefully the adreniline rush won't cloud judgement too much and cause a serious injury to anyone !!

Thanks for the comments, Life is worth living in my book!

On another note:
Can you believe the nice weather today !

Went to cycle gear and got some tech 6 boots....
Couldn't pass up what seemed to be a good deal...I got the older tech 6s that were on sale..due to the new ones recently coming out for sale..~ $70 or so difference...and some other stuff...

Then the little tyke and I went to 3 Palms (without the bike..)
That is a cool place to go riding !!

Good news...I am ready to go riding next week !! Finally lol

Good luck to you all at the Hare Scramble !
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#91307 - 03/06/04 11:01 PM Re: Danger / Risks to Hare Scrambles vs. Motocross [Re: Neo]
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Although you specifically asked about MX and HS, I feel I would be remiss if I failed to mention Observed Trials

Observed Trials has a very low injury rate.. Even though trials riders are tackling some pretty big obstacles, the low speed keeps the significant injuries down..

In the past 5 years of all rounds of the "Texas State Series of Observed Trials" we (all State riders included in stats.) have had the following injuries:

-3 or 4 knee injuries
-1 broken leg
-1 separated shoulder
-1 lacerated tongue

Only the broken femur required EMS attention/transport. Not bad for 5 years. Because the injury risk is so low, we do not stage ambulances at trials events, which helps keep costs down.

Observed Trials is a great alternative for the motorcycle enthusiast who is concerned about significant injuries..

TRIALS: Motorcycling's best kept secret!

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#91308 - 03/06/04 11:24 PM Re: Danger / Risks to Hare Scrambles vs. Motocross [Re: Brush_Buster]
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Registered: 12/06/02
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In reply to:


1. Broken back casing 150 ft triples------------------motocross




Sorry, but I do not believe there was any such jump in 1968-1982. A supercross triple is 65ft peak to peak. The new triple at Cross Creek is 85ft.

I will catch allot of flak for this but I believe HS is more safe but only because the riders do not ride as hard. A MX race is all out for 15 or 20 minutes, the intensity level is allot higher. Another problem is some people have a hard time judging their own skill level on a motorcycle. I routinely see riders try and fail to jump stuff they have no business trying in the first place. Bottom line is both types of racing is a ton of fun but it is up to you to know your limits.
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#91309 - 03/06/04 11:31 PM Re: Danger / Risks to Hare Scrambles vs. Motocross [Re: DirtMaestro]
Neo Offline
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Registered: 02/16/04
Posts: 146
Loc: Houston


Yeah, knowing your limits....

I guess finding them first !

I recall someone posted that when he races Hare Scrambles...he is just trail riding at a faster pace so he could go to work on Monday...

I am sure this is not the case for everyone !


But to some extent I guess a rider needs to know his game..right...kinda like a tennis player or pitcher or basketball player...do what they good at, what they know works kinda....?

I guess set your own pace and kinda stick to it...?


Cool posts...maybe embelishment happens sometimes of those yesterday stories...lol

Gonna put some new fluids in that machine to get it ready !!!









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#91310 - 03/07/04 02:56 AM Re: Danger / Risks to Hare Scrambles vs. Motocross [Re: Neo]
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Registered: 07/14/03
Posts: 324
Loc: Pflugerville Tx
Either way you go it has its dangers. Look at the age of guys and girls racing SX/MX and the guys and girls racing harescramble style events. I am not anything bad against mx but I feel you get way more bang for your buck in a harescramble or a desert event. Thats my preference anyway. Both disciplines are very different. Look out for the trees!
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#91311 - 03/07/04 03:29 AM Re: Danger / Risks to Hare Scrambles vs. Motocross [Re: Vtr_Racing]
Panicrev98 Offline
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Registered: 08/12/02
Posts: 139
Loc: Big Bastrop Tx
In reply to:

1. Broken back casing 150 ft triples------------------motocross





Hmm... I would like to see some one like Stewart hit a 150 foot triple. That would be pretty neat. You sure that wasnt a 15 foot triple you cased?
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#91312 - 03/07/04 08:15 PM Re: Danger / Risks to Hare Scrambles vs. Motocross [Re: Panicrev98]
Chris Offline
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Registered: 09/23/02
Posts: 3211
Loc: Salado, TX
Chad-
Only two trips to the hospital in Hare scrambles- actually I'd say 1- one of those was at a MX track in Conroe- so about even I sappose-

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#91313 - 03/08/04 12:05 PM Re: Danger / Risks to Hare Scrambles vs. Motocross [Re: Neo]
BBD_Racing Offline
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Registered: 06/22/01
Posts: 95
Loc: Houston, TX
I was a roadracer, then got a dirt bike to learn how to slide and be a better roadracer. I then realized how much cheaper dirt racing was, and I haven't been on a road course since.

The amusing thing is that I thought HS racing would be safer, since a 100mph crash pretty much can't happen. Guess the trees have proven me wrong.

Anyway, I know roadracers who have raced for decades with basically no injuries and I know roadracers who each pavement regularly. The key is to increase speed in very small increments and to judge risks intelligently.

One goal I had in roadracing was tomake it to Expert without a notable injury. I ran out of money before that happened, but the idea is the same in HS or MX. Take your time getting fast, ride using your brains, not your balls.
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#91314 - 03/08/04 07:56 PM Re: Danger / Risks to Hare Scrambles vs. Motocross [Re: Neo]
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Registered: 06/12/02
Posts: 1006
Loc: Westfield, Texas
Neo,

Riding motorcycles is like being pregnant.

It's not if you are going to the hospital, ..... It's when!!!!!!!!
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#91315 - 03/08/04 09:47 PM Re: Danger / Risks to Hare Scrambles vs. Motocross [Re: mcrider_]
Clayster Offline
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Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 1007
Loc: Kingsland, TX
This post, no matter what, is going to have so many opinions.

In my opinion and experience i just found that i enjoyed motocross alot more than trails. I hated being limited by the terrain. I felt that all the trees and tight stuff kept me from learning how to ride with style and speed. I rode motocross for bout half a season and went back to the trails, i was ten times faster in the trails after learning body position and power delivery, but i never really noticed i needed it until i got on the motocross track.

I still think that trails are dangerous to race, maybe not so much in just cruisin, but racing def. I remember so many times coming up on something that suprised me, i had seen it every lap of practice they let us have and every lap of the race but i still was suprised becasue the track is so long that you dont remember what is next and you trying to go fast and it just doesnt seem to work for me.

Motocross on the other hand, you get lots of laps in and you can memorize the track and remember where certain parts were that were maybe really messed up or soft, and you can progress with speed as you learn were you are at, your blindness goes away, you learn distances of jumps and rythems and so forth. I never got the hang of HS racing so i guess thats why im all MX, but, i have done both, and they are both fun, but when its my choice i always got MX, and to date, after about 2 years of racing/riding motocross practically every weekend, have only crashed hard twice and i havent broken bone or been really injured yet. (knockin on wood ova hear!)
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