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#62251 - 08/23/03 10:26 PM Re: CRF250F vs CRF250X design fluke or not? [Re: SNBRacing]
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Back tire, fuel tank, gear ratios, springs, and lights....that's the main differences in every other "mx vs. offroad" 4 stroke bike. Off road version will be softer suspended, about 10 mph faster, and also be lower geared for tight trails. MX version will be 10-15 pounds lighter, with stiffer suspension, both valving and springs. Cam timing may also be tweaked for the different versions.

Pick the bike for the style you'll do the most of, and accept it's shortcomings for the other use. OR, just buy a KTM, and live happily ever after.

Twyla, mx tracks aren't real friendly on headlights...however, they do look cool at night, clearing bigger jumps!
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#62252 - 08/23/03 10:31 PM Re: CRF250F vs CRF250X design fluke or not? [Re: Tominator]
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Yes, it WILL have a kick start. It's different than the 230 Jeff. It has both. Tom - I know the headlight can be removed for MX. I was more saying that I'm gonna leave the electric start on than the headlight....

I just can't wait to get it!!!!
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#62253 - 08/23/03 10:33 PM Re: CRF250F vs CRF250X design fluke or not? [Re: Tominator]
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yea, but you think they make lites for a CR125? NO. just looking for a median. i hear you, but they kept the rear tire the same. everything else except springs and gearing are the same. later
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#62254 - 08/23/03 10:42 PM Re: CRF250F vs CRF250X design fluke or not? [Re: SNBRacing]
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SNB, read your own post. The rear tire on the X is an 18, and the R has a 19.

Same way with the Blue, Orange, Yellow bikes.
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#62255 - 08/23/03 10:45 PM Re: CRF250F vs CRF250X design fluke or not? [Re: Tominator]
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dang sorry tom missed that.

my bad
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#62256 - 08/23/03 11:03 PM Re: CRF250F vs CRF250X design fluke or not? [Re: SNBRacing]
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That's all right, Keith. You're new at all this offroad stuff. Most of us old dogs have tried to ride offroad on an MX bike, and MX on an offroad bike. It really depends on what you want to do with the bike.

I rode the Lone Star state series (mx) in 97' on an XR600...took 3rd in the Open class. Rode the 98' Whitney series (mx) on a KTM 620 EXC (no lights)...1st in the Open class. Several 99' Hare Scrambles on a YZ400...stunk pretty bad, 99' Whitney series...2nd, Open Class. 2000 Whitney series on YZ 400...1st, again (4 stroke).

Heck, Steve Cardwell even rode the Houston SX amateur day on a WR 250! He said it didn't jump too well, with the big tank and all.


Also remember that the YZ and WR motors look nearly identical on paper, but were totally different on the bikes. Ignition, cam timing, exhaust can all differ from bike to bike, but won't show up on a spec sheet.
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#62257 - 08/23/03 11:06 PM Re: CRF250F vs CRF250X design fluke or not? [Re: Tominator]
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thanks Tom, you still ride whitny or have you retired from MX?
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#62258 - 08/24/03 12:12 AM Re: CRF250F vs CRF250X design fluke or not? [Re: SNBRacing]
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>I will simply put on a stock CRF250R tank

Why would you put on a smaller tank? Just don't fill up the bigger tank completely..either way, get the CRF250R

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#62259 - 08/24/03 12:20 AM Re: CRF250F vs CRF250X design fluke or not?
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weight, DR last year sail CHarmichel saved of like .3 secoulnds of lap time when he took of like 5 oz.

how long does your tank last on your 250f?
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#62260 - 08/24/03 01:08 AM Re: CRF250F vs CRF250X design fluke or not? [Re: SNBRacing]
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In reply to:

weight, DR last year sail CHarmichel saved of like .3 secoulnds of lap time when he took of like 5 oz.



That's Carmichael - not the average rider
Then again, I've seen guys rail on XR's with the headlight and all
At your competition level, I wouldn't worry about shaving ounces

In reply to:

how long does your tank last on your 250f?



About 35 miles, and it's only 1.8 gallons

All in all..get the CRF250R over the X - you can always add a headlight to it

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