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#560318 - 09/16/13 07:28 PM Re: Unsportsmanship and uncalled for [Re: soulvillemusic]
Randolph6 Offline
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Registered: 04/25/13
Posts: 17
Loc: Lake Whitney
That was my son, Gus Randolph, on the CRF 150. He had been trying to get the bike off the rider & was relieved when the sweeper quickly appeared. I'm always proud of him. He doesn't have a second thought about the race when someone needs help. He's been wondering if the rider is ok.
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#560326 - 09/16/13 08:01 PM Re: Unsportsmanship and uncalled for [Re: soulvillemusic]
Radracer Offline
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Registered: 04/27/10
Posts: 27
Loc: North Texas
I've enjoyed racing in TORN now for almost 4 years now and although I used to be a bit intimidated by woods racing (I used to race MX in the late 70s/early 80s) I think I've come a long way and have learned the rules of the game. Having been on both sides of the passing equation many times I can say that if a rider in another class is approaching me from behind I will ALWAYS move over the second I can find a safe place to move over. A couple of times I moved over in bad areas and crashed or was unable to get rolling quickly afterwards but I ALWAYS move over quickly. Heck if I'm tired and a rider in MY CLASS is right on my ass I may move over for him too in order not to be pushed so fast I make a mistake and wreck; in fact I did that for #655 at Maypearl. If it was the last half of the last lap I would try to hang onto my spot but the race was only just over a lap old and I didn't want to get in a wreck with a clearly faster rider on a Bonsai pass or get so tired I made a mistake or completely waste myself and slow to a crawl by trying to hold him off the next 3 laps so I let him pass. Amazingly he got a branch stuck in his wheel/brake lever and I passed him back later and won the race so my actions paid off. All a faster rider has to do is give me a second and some kind of notice if I don't see him and I'll move over but some riders in other classes just don't get it like an O30 AMA KTM rider yesterday who battled over and over with the O52 AMA leader (#698) for half the race for no reason! Sorry BrentP your son got hurt (I fell and got hurt on that insanely rough track too yesterday) but you are wrong about you point of view. If someone communicating with you makes you mad you should take up stamp collecting or something. I've watched my lead disappear over a 2nd place competitor I've worked VERY hard to get some space over while some slower rider plodded on in front of me while I yelled NOT IN YOUR CLASS! NOT IN YOUR CLASS! NOT IN YOUR CLASS! for half a lap when there's really nowhere to pass in tight woody sections. Your notion that if a rider is better he should be able to just go around him easily is just wrong! I got hit by 2 riders yesterday and I'm not mad at either one of them. I would have PREFERRED that they yell at me and/or rev their bikes and I would have moved over quickly. I had no idea they were there because they DIDN'T rev their engines or yell OR I WOULD HAVE MOVED OVER!! Its a form of COMMUNICATION AND IT PREVENTS WRECKS!!!! One of them (#580) came over and apologized which shows what a gentleman he is. I still need to clean his knobby marks off the side of my bike though :-)

I (for one) would like to see 3 things;

1)a standardized statement like (Not in your class) or something else (like revving your bike lot) that tells a slower rider to move over and

2)some sort of penalty for any slower rider who does NOT quickly move over when a faster rider makes the correct statement alerting the slower rider

3)some sort of penalty for any faster rider who doesn't yell the standard statement and while trying to pass knocks down the slower rider

IF a slower rider gets the correct passing statement or revving done to them and doesn't move over and gets knocked over in a pass its their own damn fault.

With all the cameras on people these days it wouldn't be hard to document if some slower held up a faster rider who did the right things or of a faster rider who didn't give a slower rider a chance to move over and knocked him down. Lets make this a rule and try to eliminate the problem, danger and misunderstandings.
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#560328 - 09/16/13 08:12 PM Re: Unsportsmanship and uncalled for [Re: Radracer]
liss Offline
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Registered: 11/01/04
Posts: 7308
Loc: LOVING,TEXAS
that 698 am. is one of the nicest people and racers you will meet.....so the other guy was just lucky lol

580 am is still talking about that today. He felt so bad. No way he would intentionally take someone out. That was the first thing he said when he finished was I gotta find that guy and apologize......

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#560330 - 09/16/13 08:21 PM Re: Unsportsmanship and uncalled for [Re: liss]
Logan376 Offline
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Registered: 02/06/12
Posts: 30
Personally I think it's sad how many of the young kids I catch that get right out of the way compared to the older guys who never move, do wanna say thanks to everyone this weekend I was in the open amateur class and didn't have any problems with anyone, no hold ups.

I've been in races where you catch some one that Won't move and then everyone behind you catches up or the guy in front is pulling away its highly highly frustrating no one wants to lose a race because of some one that's not even in your class.

Can't wait for the next race hopefully not as slick and dry as this one!

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#560343 - 09/16/13 10:54 PM Re: Unsportsmanship and uncalled for [Re: Logan376]
ridered Offline
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Registered: 01/14/08
Posts: 740
Loc: peaster, tx
Honestly I think he was upset because he was about to get lapped by a YZ125.... Moral of the story, you shouldn't grab someones bars and start yelling at them because you went down without contact. Next time the person might put a Protaper or Renthal stamp on your forehead, Thanks BAH..

P.S BrentP as far as schooling goes, my nephew got the overall win and lapped the guy so who got schooled????
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#560345 - 09/16/13 11:05 PM Re: Unsportsmanship and uncalled for [Re: ridered]
BaH Offline
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Registered: 03/09/11
Posts: 330
Loc: Fort Worth, Tx

Originally Posted By: ridered
Honestly I think he was upset because he was about to get lapped by a YZ125.... Moral of the story, you shouldn't grab someones bars and start yelling at them because you went down without contact. Next time the person might put a Protaper or Renthal stamp on your forehead..


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#560346 - 09/16/13 11:07 PM Re: Unsportsmanship and uncalled for [Re: BaH]
ridered Offline
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Registered: 01/14/08
Posts: 740
Loc: peaster, tx
Yes it was and I took it... haha
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#560352 - 09/17/13 12:38 AM Re: Unsportsmanship and uncalled for [Re: ridered]
Reed68 Offline
Gang Daddy

Registered: 04/08/09
Posts: 514
Loc: Houston, TX. Spring Branch
Originally Posted By: ridered
Honestly I think he was upset because he was about to get lapped by a YZ125.... Moral of the story, you shouldn't grab someones bars and start yelling at them because you went down without contact. Next time the person might put a Protaper or Renthal stamp on your forehead, Thanks BAH..

P.S BrentP as far as schooling goes, my nephew got the overall win and lapped the guy so who got schooled????


I take my nephew racing in another series, if that happened in the other series I would come unglued but I also think my series would. I hope something gets said to the bushy eyebrow man in a serious eye to eye face to face manner.
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#560353 - 09/17/13 01:01 AM Re: Unsportsmanship and uncalled for [Re: Reed68]
liss Offline
Gang Mom

Registered: 11/01/04
Posts: 7308
Loc: LOVING,TEXAS
Well...the best manner to deal with bad conduct is to report it to Cross or one of the torn gang.
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#560354 - 09/17/13 01:40 AM Re: Unsportsmanship and uncalled for [Re: liss]
David_513 Offline
Gang Boss

Registered: 11/16/11
Posts: 366
Loc: Round Rock,TX
Hey Rad, im with ya but gotta say that more rules and more penalties might work.....but will be a headache and take fun away. i ride intermediate in torn and B in torcs and never have problems with riders moving. i think its more of an education and culture thing. teach the young and new riders track etiquette and let violators learn the hard way...on the track.

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