I have a friend that races motocross and has recently been classified as an intermediate rider. He is interested in racing TORCS, is 17 years old, an AMA member, rides a Honda 250F. He will continue to do MX for points.

What skill level should he start off in for the TORCS series? I always advise to start low and bump yourself until your into a class of racer that is competative because it's easier to move up than down. He's afraid if he enters as an A rider, he will be bumped into pro for MX, if the AMA is involved somehow. He isn't near ready for that. I've seen him ride before, he's good, but probably a B class rider for our stuff.

I told him I didn't know if MX, TORCS and the AMA intermix, but I'm certaintly not qualified to advise here.

Is there an official that can answer his inqueries?

Brad

I dont ride motocross but ride B in STORM. Do I sign up for a C class so I have a chance at competing

If your buddy is a Intermediate mxer and is winning his class He would do well in the A class. Torcs has nothing to do with the AMA from what I read so he should be fine. IF he races the B class, He will probably smoke the class unless he is a slow intermediate mxer. The cool thing is here is that there will be a good mix of riders from different diciplines. I know I can get smoked by an MXer for the first 30 mins but the race is 70 and I can usually ride longer faster that most MX riders with my same ability. That is unless he's sandbagging.

I think Tyler should start off in intermediate and see what happens.

I guess a bit more simply, Tyler doesn't want to start off too low or too high. If his intermediate classification qualifies him for the A class in TORCS, then will he be automatically bumped to A class or pro for the various MX series.

He has been placing about 8th to 12th on the MX circuit as a new intermediate rider. If we have any intermediate riders out there, racing about his apparent speed, where would you recommend he start?

I've told him the B class would be a good start until he figures out this woods, creeks and unprepared trails which differ from a nice groomed MX track. If he is smoking all, he'll want to move up for the competition, as he did in his MX classification.

Hey Mike:

If your being smoked as a B, then you should go to C. I don't see anything wrong with trying to find a competative match......unless your just blowing sand up my fanny.

By the way, this kid is competative and is not interested in trying to place himself where he has an obvious advantage. He thinks that riding with faster people will improve his MX skills, but to a level, being smoked in your class doesn't help many people improve.

He was "concerned" that intermediate may equate to A in TORCS, and A in TORCS may force him to move to pro in MX. Sorry to say, he ain't no pro, and he knows that.

If this is a worthless question, just let me know and I'll delete it all.

Brad

TORCS is not a motocross eventand he should not get bumped into pro in mx from doing Expert in TORCS since it isn't only motocross. Maybe this could help, Billy races in A in STORM and TORO and he can probably make a minute a lap on me, but yet I race C in TORO and STORM and I could spank him on a motocross track it just doesn't equate the same.

Kevin

Mike sounds like we should sign up in the C class.

Mike and Mike, the sandbag twins! Good thing for y'all that AA is voluntary! WooHoo!!! Actually, I'm just glad that Erwin found the dirt again. Hell, I might even start riding again, now.

Brad, stick the kid in the B class for his first ride. B is intermediate in most off road series. If he cleans up, he'll move. If not, he did right.

Brad / Kevin, can't y'all talk at the dinner table? These family conversations are eating up my bandwidth!

Lunch next week, Brad?

TB

Tom:

Lunch sounds great next week. I'll give you a call. And, Kev boy don't live at home any longer. He's doing that college thing. And, and, I'll recommend Tyler hit the B class in TORCS. Don't worry our sandbagging friends, I'll make sure he don't ride in your classes. I just hate to see grown men get spanked by a teenager, ha.

Brad

This is not considered a like discipline by AMA sports so take that into consideration.

So with that said, heres my question. Im trying to qualify for Lorettas this year in the 125 Stock/Mod Novice and 250 Open Novice classes. Ive raced the STORM series in the 250 Open Expert class before and i enjoy the competition and speed. I am going to sign up in the 250F A class. Could AMA possibly use this against me and say I cant race Novice?

Hey Micheal, Sean is on his way back to Texas. I don't feel comfortable answering your question, but im sure Sean will know and will be back online soon.

Michael:

Your question and mine are in the same ball park. Sounds like they won't have an effect on each other.

Brad

there will be no issues with the AMA on this category.

Thanks. I'll relay that information as well as the other comments.

Brad

Brad, as long as hes not riding 250B, b class is fine. Michael, a couple of years ago Jason Raines qualified for Lorettas in the B class. Since he has won the National Hare Scrambles championship, and was still legal for the Int. class, I think you'll be ok.

Also, I want to go to lunch next week. I've heard about the place with the bbq that you guys go to, it sounds nice.

That would be Bone Daddys. It's a great BBQ outfit with an even better wait staff, if you know what I mean. By the way, Tominator is playing Santa Claus next door at Bone Daddys sister joint. Apparently, the club is having the girls sit on his lap and tell him what they want for Christmas. Sorry guys, Santa won't entertain your Christmas wishes tonight.

Are you talking about SKOOTZ. That place is real nice..Good food too !!

Brad, don't let Josh sucker you in about Bone Daddy's. He was there the second day they were open. I didn't make it til the third day!!! He has many friends there, too.

Mighty Mouse, did you make it by Skoots tonight for the Christmas Party? Brad didn't, and it's too bad. The girls were in their finest Christmas attire, all done up in ribbons and bows. I handed out candy canes to the ladies and lumps of coal to the guys. It was very festive, indeed. Really gave me the Christmas spirit just to be involved. Sometimes, just helping out with a community function really leaves you feeling good about yourself.

L8R,
TOM8R

SKOOTS is a legend for some of us Austin boys..Sorry I did not make it, but I can attest to the girls being VERY GOOD this year. They make an appearance at a golf tournament that my friend puts on each year, and they sure spread the Christmas Joy...Have a great Holiday

Funny how an everyday thing for some can be a legend to others. Sorry to rub it in Mighty, but I ate lunch there a couple of times a week last year, included Tuesdays, which were the best.

Brad, don't listen to the old man, he's just jealous that I got to go there before he did. He is the one with all the connections there, none of them really remember me. To demonstrate my point, when I broke my shoulder blade, vertabrae and cracked a rib last summer, I went up there, and got no sympathy. He gets a little cut on his finger and you would think the world ended when he told everyone.

Later

Now that's funny Josh. I know what you mean....no respect. And for those lump of coal.......Tom, were they in the seat of your pants or did you hane an accident, hahahahahaha. Man I wish I could have been there. Perhaps you could arrange for Josh and me to meet you there, and do it again. After all, it's not Christmas yet.

Or, I'll bet if you wear your Santa suit up to Bone Daddys, without the coal, we can get a repeat.