I did not intend to drag RFC ministries into this mess, I have nothing against any one in RFC including Joe, I like Joe and have no problem with him. I met Joe as a 16 year old pro in a gas station and he was very nice and polite to me and my son. He stood and talked to us for several minutes. As you pointed out that it was a TORN member that started all this, i just pointed out that he was the first to post a negative. I have respect for RFC and support them any time I am at an event they are present.