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#594188 - 01/19/18 10:55 PM Tips for first race.
TBone323 Offline
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Hi everyone, i'm planning on going to my first TORCS event next weekend and wanted to ask a few questions.

Do people normally wear hydration packs while they race or get water when they stop for fuel?

People on 450s with normal sized tanks, how often do you have to stop and refuel? Im on a KX450 and am trying to gauge how many times I would need to stop.

Is there a specified pit area where you have to stage your extra fuel, or do people just set up their own areas near the timing gate?

Thanks in advance for your input. If you have any other advice for a first time racer please feel free to chime in.

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#594189 - 01/19/18 11:53 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: TBone323]
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Welcome to TORCS!

People probably wear hydration packs more in the summer. I used to wear one all the time but now just wear one if it is really hot. I am pretty good about making sure I am hydrated before the race. If you think you need it though go for it.

Regarding refueling, I will let people who actually race 450's chime in, but I believe most people are able to make the 70 min race (i.e. probably ends up being an average of 80 mins.) without having to refuel. I can't think of a single person I know that has to refuel. The Pro's used to refuel when they raced a lot longer but that has been a couple of years now.

Show up and have fun! The tracks that Gil (i.e. Jackie and Gil run TORCS) puts together are normally awesome.
Talk to Jackie at registration and she will get you all setup.
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#594191 - 01/20/18 06:39 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: bam300xc]
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Tbone, I don't ever carry water in a TORCS race but definitely not in winter, I've never pitted in a TORCS race. Could be wrong but pretty sure even the pros make it without refueling. One guy in my class starts with 1/2 a tank so he doesn't have to carry the extra weight, lol. He knows how much he needs. You should be fine. There used to be a pit area, not even sure there is a marked off spot anymore. If you're really worried about it ask in scoring, because I think it's against the rules to fuel up "just anywhere".
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#594192 - 01/20/18 06:56 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: woodsguy]
woodsguy Offline
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From rulebook:
E. Refueling anywhere other than in designated pit area. Disqualification.
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#594193 - 01/20/18 11:04 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: woodsguy]
TBone323 Offline
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Thanks for the info guys.

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#594195 - 01/20/18 12:48 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: TBone323]
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The reason for 70 minutes is so a stock tank can make the full race. The only time there might be an issue is in a mud or sand race where there's a lot of wheel spin.

There have been times when people pull off the track for mechanical reasons, but as long as you re-enter at the same spot you're fine. If you feel you need to pit, they will let you know where to do it. Typically shortly after the scoring shoot. A few years ago my vintage bike couldn't make a whole race and that's what they told me to do. I was the only one pitting by the way.
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#594196 - 01/20/18 12:51 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: Spermy]
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I always have a drink system on in case I need it. Also pre-registering online will save you a ton of time during signup.
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#594197 - 01/20/18 12:56 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: Spermy]
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A good way to judge how much fuel you use is too fill your tank before practice. Do a lap or two and see how much is left. We usually do 4-5 laps. I think we did 6 last year at Revs because it was so open.
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#594210 - 01/22/18 02:02 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: Spermy]
ktmdirtrat Offline
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I raced a KXF450 my first year and now a KTM350 and I don't think I've ever burned more than about 5/8 of a tank when full under normal conditions. There is no reason if your tank is full you should ever need to stop for fuel unless you have a hole in your tank. I always wear a camelback with my favorite Powerade flavor but I know some who don't and to be honest I don't know how they do it. Lots of times it's not about having it for hydration it's to rinse the dirt out of your mouth. Good Luck your first time out and the next race is a awesome place.
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#594212 - 01/22/18 09:57 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: ktmdirtrat]
MarkAMc Offline
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Registered: 01/09/18
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Tbone, what bike are you riding? i will say hi if i see you there. i'm hoping to make the saturday race. this will be my second race. i'm riding a yz250 with 111 numbers.

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#594215 - 01/22/18 11:33 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: MarkAMc]
Spermy Administrator Offline
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His first post says KX450.

Tbone, just pull up and park and tell whoever is parked next to you it's your first time and they will point you in the right direction.

Yep, people are that friendly at the races.

Oh yeah, don't forget your dots!
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Drex TORCS 4
Scout carrying on the 611 tradition

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#594217 - 01/22/18 01:55 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: Spermy]
DonS Offline
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Registered: 06/19/13
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Loc: Texas
I've only been to a few TORCS but got told this before my first one: Accelerate on the straights, brake for the corners, don't hit the trees. HAHA

As mentioned folks are very helpful. I had no idea how to race but just went and did it. Jackie gave me tons of info and the folks on the starting line were helpful also.

I crashed out of one - crashed and bent rear rotor bad - hobbled back to the pits, and went to the trailer and asked if I needed to let them know I stopped.

Bet they got a good laugh out of that one.

Camelbak always...as mentioned earlier to wash the dirt out my mouth...as it seems I'm always last. Also used it once to wash my goggles off as I ran out of tear offs.

Just go and have fun.

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#594219 - 01/22/18 03:57 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: DonS]
MarkAMc Offline
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Registered: 01/09/18
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those trees come alot quicker than you think! braaaap!!! then lock up rear wheel and pray you can slow down to make the 3' wide opening!!!

don, i didn't finish my first race either. i got too wore out. it was really hot outside and i was overheating.


Edited by MarkAMc (01/22/18 03:58 PM)

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#594221 - 01/22/18 05:46 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: MarkAMc]
DonS Offline
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Yes they do. Clipped one 2 weeks and went down hard. Shoulder is still sore. HAHA

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#594222 - 01/22/18 05:49 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: DonS]
MarkAMc Offline
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i whacked my forearm on a cut cedar branch a few weekends ago. i had elbow pads on, but still got swiped a bit.

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#594226 - 01/23/18 07:52 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: MarkAMc]
DonS Offline
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Loc: Texas
Seems like I never get out of the woods completely unscathed. Most of the time it's cactus thorns.

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#594232 - 01/23/18 05:18 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: DonS]
desertdog Offline
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Registered: 01/03/01
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Loc: bastrop tx.
you have no problem finishing on a simgle tank of fuel, as for the hydration pack i always wear one, dont drink much but if something happens out on the course a crash or bike quits etc... youll have water. have fun and remember the golden rules of racing, pin it to win it and when in doubt throttle out..

good luck and welcome to the club
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#594237 - 01/23/18 09:23 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: MarkAMc]
TBone323 Offline
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Registered: 01/19/18
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I'll be on a KX450 racing Open C, #323. Black Shift gear. Stop by and say hi.
I'm just hoping the rain isn't too heavy on Saturday.


Edited by TBone323 (01/23/18 09:24 PM)

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#594238 - 01/23/18 09:25 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: Spermy]
TBone323 Offline
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Sounds like a plan. And what do you mean by Dots?

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#594239 - 01/23/18 10:21 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: TBone323]
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Important tip: It's never the first tree that hurts, it's the second one.
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#594244 - 01/24/18 06:11 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: TBone323]
woodsguy Offline
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Originally Posted By: TBone323
Sounds like a plan. And what do you mean by Dots?

Every class runs a different color 2 inch decal (dot) on front number and back of helmet so when you're on course you can tell who's in your class.
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#594245 - 01/24/18 06:18 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: woodsguy]
woodsguy Offline
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Should be able to see dot on my number plate.


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#594253 - 01/24/18 05:25 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: woodsguy]
TBone323 Offline
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Ok cool. Where would I get something like that? I will be in Open C

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#594254 - 01/24/18 06:24 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: TBone323]
GIL Offline
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Loc: Austin, TX
They will have them at the TORCS sign up trailer. I'm also Open C which is pink dots.
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#594257 - 01/24/18 08:54 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: GIL]
TBone323 Offline
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Nice. Thank you all for the tips. Hope to meet some of you this weekend.

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#594262 - 01/25/18 07:57 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: MarkAMc]
Cindyloulou Offline
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Registered: 02/14/17
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Is the races still going on Saturday? It's 50% chance of rain that's why I asked.

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#594263 - 01/25/18 09:01 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: Cindyloulou]
Spermy Administrator Offline
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No cancellation at this point.
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Patty 611's number 1 fan
Drex TORCS 4
Scout carrying on the 611 tradition

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#594271 - 01/25/18 06:45 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: Spermy]
willie68 Offline
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Sunday might be another story
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#594272 - 01/25/18 07:53 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: willie68]
woodsguy Offline
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Originally Posted By: willie68
Sunday might be another story


My guess if Saturday happens, us Sunday riders will have to deal with whatever the conditions are.
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#594274 - 01/25/18 09:57 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: woodsguy]
Spermy Administrator Offline
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yep.
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My good friend and brother in law just passed. He always called me "Chick'n Wing". I'm already missing him. RIP Junebug.

Spermy TORCS 611
Patty 611's number 1 fan
Drex TORCS 4
Scout carrying on the 611 tradition

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#594275 - 01/26/18 07:30 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: Spermy]
MarkAMc Offline
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Registered: 01/09/18
Posts: 44
Is there going to be a lunch option onsite?

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#594276 - 01/26/18 07:48 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: MarkAMc]
woodsguy Offline
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Originally Posted By: MarkAMc
Is there going to be a lunch option onsite?


Occasionally , he uses post it on his Facebook page, not sure this time.
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#594277 - 01/26/18 07:50 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: woodsguy]
woodsguy Offline
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yes, "Revs round one update
OJ's BBQ will be here Saturday and Sunday. The campground looks great. We are running last race trails backwards with lots of new stuff added in. "
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#594297 - 01/28/18 08:42 PM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: woodsguy]
Behindbars Offline
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Loc: Groves,TX
How did your first race go?
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#594308 - 01/29/18 09:06 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: Behindbars]
MarkAMc Offline
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are the results going to be placed online?

i survived!


Edited by MarkAMc (01/29/18 09:06 AM)

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#594309 - 01/29/18 09:13 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: MarkAMc]
Spermy Administrator Offline
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Yes, they will be posted. The usual process is Jackie makes all the corrections to the database, sends it to me and I post it on the website. I usually put a link to them here or at least make a post they are up.

The time to get them up is determined by how much editing she has top do. But they are usually up within a day or two.
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My good friend and brother in law just passed. He always called me "Chick'n Wing". I'm already missing him. RIP Junebug.

Spermy TORCS 611
Patty 611's number 1 fan
Drex TORCS 4
Scout carrying on the 611 tradition

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#594310 - 01/29/18 09:14 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: Spermy]
Spermy Administrator Offline
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Oh and Mark, the courses get harder than that.
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My good friend and brother in law just passed. He always called me "Chick'n Wing". I'm already missing him. RIP Junebug.

Spermy TORCS 611
Patty 611's number 1 fan
Drex TORCS 4
Scout carrying on the 611 tradition

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#594311 - 01/29/18 09:16 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: Spermy]
woodsguy Offline
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Originally Posted By: Spermy
Oh and Mark, the courses get harder than that.


lol, yep
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#594312 - 01/29/18 09:17 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: woodsguy]
woodsguy Offline
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Originally Posted By: woodsguy
Originally Posted By: willie68
Sunday might be another story


My guess if Saturday happens, us Sunday riders will have to deal with whatever the conditions are.


Sunday was perfect!
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#594313 - 01/29/18 10:18 AM Re: Tips for first race. [Re: Spermy]
MarkAMc Offline
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bring it on! that was a blast!! here is my bike after one practice loop then after the race.


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