The racing season is just around the corner and as a racer it is your responsibility to know the rulebook.

SO....Here is!

Just to clarify, there is no more pro class, and there is also no payout for winning AA?

yes, that is correct.

So for the up coming season, are last years advancement rules in place? Top 10 A riders, top 8 B riders, top 8 C riders?

It looks like the top 5 from each class advance. It's in part 6.3 of the rulebook.

the top 8 do advance (per the rulebook that was in place for last season). These rules govern this season so moving forward the top five advancements will take effect for the 2016-17 season.

But i see nothing about automatic advancements for a class win.
Say some one rides Over 50B and wins that class but finishes 8th Overall B. Unless i missed something in the rule book he would not be bumped to the "A" class as he would have in the past for a class win. Same thing in any of the age classes. It appears to me a rider could win his class and not be in the top 5 and he would be eligible to ride hat class again the next year. Clue me in here.

RD, that is half way right, the 50B guy WOULD be moved to 50A, due to 8th overall. But yes someone could win their class and not be in the top 8, and still ride the same class next year.

Read again Mr.Yuri Nator.
The new rule book says Top FIVE in each class.

And for further clarification i am confused by the the wording of the first sentence in section 6.3

Riders will be promoted using these rules from the previous years' end of season final standings.

Since this is he 2015 rule book the literal interpretation of that sentence would mean that these rules on mandatory promotions apply to he 2014- 2015 season year end final standings. I think I know what ya'll meant for it to say,but that is what it says to me.

Also unclear on who makes up the Masters B class. It appears there is no mandatory promotion into this class only out of it to Masters A.
Are the Age C class intended to be only for the less experienced (new) older riders and everybody else is supposed to ride Masters B ?
How do an Old guy know what class to ride.
It's clear as mud to me.

And i also have a question on this one
Promotions earned are permanent.
Does that apply to promotions earned this year based on last years rule book or does that apply only to promotions earned at the end of this season?
It does not state one way or he other.

Inquiring minds want to know.

RD, I thought you were referring to the last post from HVACPro. Under the new rules you are correct with what you said.

Wait wait now I'm really confused,
So last season I won the 250A class.. Does that mean I can't stay in A? Do I have to go to AA?
Thanks..

Conner, I think where the confusion lies is "overall" and "overall A" Look at rule 6.2.1 in last years rule book. Yes you are being moved to AA under the current rules. You came in 8th overall A, and their taking the top 10, next year they are taking the top 5. I believe there are a few guys that are in the top 10 that submitted a request to TSCEC NOT to be moved to AA for next year.

And for further clarification i am confused by the the wording of the first sentence in section 6.3

Riders will be promoted using these rules from the previous years' end of season final standings.

Since this is he 2015 rule book the literal interpretation of that sentence would mean that these rules on mandatory promotions apply to he 2014- 2015 season year end final standings. I think I know what ya'll meant for it to say,but that is what it says to me.

*Promotions are based on prior season's results, what else could we look at?

Also unclear on who makes up the Masters B class. It appears there is no mandatory promotion into this class only out of it to Masters A.
Are the Age C class intended to be only for the less experienced (new) older riders and everybody else is supposed to ride Masters B ?
How do an Old guy know what class to ride.
It's clear as mud to me.

*Any rider who is promoted out of the C class into a B class but is over 40 is eligible to ride masters B.

And i also have a question on this one
Promotions earned are permanent.
Does that apply to promotions earned this year based on last years rule book or does that apply only to promotions earned at the end of this season?
It does not state one way or he other.

*All promotions are permanent, if you were promoted by TSCEC or moved yourself up voluntarily you can't move down without BOD approval.

*Promotions are based on prior season's results, what else could we look at?

My confusion stemmed from the fact that previous rule books stated what years results they applied to. This one stating "previous years results" , or something to that affect, could lead one to believe that the new rule book superseded last years book and promotions from last year would be based on this book. Or i'm Old. One of the two


*All promotions are permanent, if you were promoted by TSCEC or moved yourself up voluntarily you can't move down without BOD approval.
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So, even though it wasn't in last years rule book, promotions earned last year are permanent unless BOD approval is given to move to a different class?

Is that the correct interpretation here?

Lets say someone won the Over 55 class and finished 4th overall Age and was promoted to Masters A.
They would be a Masters A rider for life?

someone correct me if im wrong but the way I see it is the top over all 10 are advanced to AA not the top over all A. i'm pretty sure im correct because I got the 10th spot last year in over all and was the last to advance.

So, even though it wasn't in last years rule book, promotions earned last year are permanent unless BOD approval is given to move to a different class?

Is that the correct interpretation here?

Yes once you move up to a higher skill class you can't move down, it has really always been that way see 6.4 but we are enforcing it and trying to clarify.

Lets say someone won the Over 55 class and finished 4th overall Age and was promoted to Masters A.
They would be a Masters A rider for life?

yes they would, unless they requested a downward class change, take 5 years off, have a hip replaced, etc.. still masters A without requesting a downward class change.

which brings up another point, there is no overall Age. 40C riders compete for overall C, if your not a novice you belong in Masters, Sportsman, or Long Course.

Thanks Lance.
That is exactly the wording I was looking for.
Now lets RACE.
See ya'll in Houston.

What's the story on Team classes this year? Theres a small section in rule book that talks about Team Points.

Why would you want to move down a class?

That's why they call it a promotion.

BB

There will be an ABC, A, B and C team. details and signup instructions shortly.

Maybe because the rider doesn't really belong in the higher class.