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#544313 - 10/24/12 02:55 PM POLL-Races You Would Like to See in 2013?
Airwolf__32 Offline
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Please let us know what you would like to see more of in the 2013 race series.
2013 Series Race Type
Only one choice allowed


Votes accepted starting: 10/24/12 02:52 PM
You must vote before you can view the results of this poll.
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#544344 - 10/24/12 07:20 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: BIZZZARE]
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#544354 - 10/24/12 09:15 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: CRFaggie96]
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Dang moderator detracting the thread! :banghead:
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#544360 - 10/24/12 10:01 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Airwolf__32]
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I would like to see sand. Much more sand. Not even kidding put us through the nastiest, siltiest, knarliest sand you can find. I want it.
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#544383 - 10/25/12 10:30 AM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: CaD11]
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Originally Posted By: CaD11
I would like to see sand. Much more sand. Not even kidding put us through the nastiest, siltiest, knarliest sand you can find. I want it.


Condor, How about we build you a circle rut in the Lunar Dunes(or what's left of them) a see how many "laps" you can do in 90 minutes?

Jeff, Maybe add Outlaw Trax to your list.


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#544385 - 10/25/12 10:53 AM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Kenzo]
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yeah, good list:
brunes, rio, skull, outlaw and then a final tie breaker, time keeper in the sam hou.
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#544387 - 10/25/12 11:32 AM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Nacho Nate]
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Okay, so for race chairs for 2013, I have:

Jeff Wilson: Rio Bravo (co-chair: CRFaggie96)
Kenny Grundmann: Outlaw Trax
Nate Kaleta: Brunes Mill

Thanks for volunteering fellas!

By the way, how did we get from a poll on TYPES of races people want to see to WHERE we should race???
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#544390 - 10/25/12 12:00 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Airwolf__32]
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Middleton is always awesome.
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#544398 - 10/25/12 02:23 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Danarcher]
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Enduro or Scrambles are both cool-as long as were racin' !!

I personally like time-keepers, but I know that for some others, it requires more thought than just turning the throttle
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#544403 - 10/25/12 03:51 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: BIZZZARE]
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It's hard to argue that timekeepers aren't a thing of the past. In my opinion, it's a bit contradictory to use the term "race" to describe a timekeeper enduro. Not saying that a defining word should be something to live by, but just so it's out there:

race - [reys] Show IPA noun, verb, raced, rac·ing.


noun
1.
a contest of speed, as in running, riding, driving, or sailing.

Timekeeper Enduros aren't that at all. Timekeeping is more of a mind game, or a game to see whose got the best computer and can program it properly and keep a close eye on it while riding. The fun of racing is the competitive spirit that fuels it. I know one day, when I finally beat #122, I'm going to talk a whole bunch of smack and ridicule him mercilessly for being slower than me.

I won my class in the first race of this past series which was a timekeeper. But it felt like more a game of risk that oddly ended up paying off. I didn't feel entitled to any bragging rights whatsoever.

At the end of day, when you win, you can't really say you beat somebody. They may very well be able to smoke you in an actual race.

But most importantly, I haven't ever come across a younger rider (than me) saying he wishes he could race a time-keeper.
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#544408 - 10/25/12 05:40 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Airwolf__32]
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I FREAKIN' LOVE TIME KEEPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!! LETS DO THAT SH*T!!
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#544411 - 10/25/12 06:42 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: CaD11]
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airwolf- i completely understand what you are saying about how a time keeper can feel more like a game of chance to see who can zero in on a check and buying computers helps tilt odds in your favor. thats why i think we need a no computer class, just use a watch. the one thing to think of though is if the average speed is way above what you are capable of, then it just really is more like a race because there is no need to moderate your speed. in the sam houston when there is a 25 or 35 mph section, maybe the AA riders are still in moderation mode, but im WFO just trying to minimize penalty points for being late.
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#544418 - 10/25/12 08:43 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Nacho Nate]
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I never learned to trust my computer in enduros because of my questionable programming skills and always double checked with my trusty Walmart wristwatch and roll chart during the event. The last big enduros that i won were the 2000, 2002, 2004 Caney Creek Enduro from the AA class with a wristwatch/rollchart/odometer combo only. You still need to race the trail when the speed average is unobtainable. It's a race of sorts with actual thought process and forethought...and some talent for outguessing where the checkpoints are. It's a art that , unfortuneately is lost these days.
The re-start enduro was the answer to shrinking land availability among other things. The core of the timekeeper enduro was "test sections" of unobtainable speed averages mixed in with miles of just timekeeping to wear you down mentally and physically. With the loss of the super long enduro, the concept came about of just having test sections. Then to cut down on the hang wringing and belly aching over the have' and have nots' in the computer department and protest period running for hours because someone thought a checkpoint was off by .02 miles, the enduro community decided to evolve to the present day re-start format. I personally like the new format because no one has a clue what the mileage is and I can put the checkpoint exactly where i want it, because everyone has to sprint the same distance. Under the surface, the checkpoints are set up just like a timekeeper, but all the rider knows is that they DO NOT need to keep time and just focus on riding the event.
I've never heard anyone complain about the length of any hare scramble or re-start enduro being too short.
Original question and my answer is to keep doing both.
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#544472 - 10/26/12 03:39 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: lynnbailey24]
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Out of curiosity, are there any series you know of that still run time-keeping events?

Yea, it looks like the majority is wanting a mix of both, but Harescrambles seems to have the larger popularity. IMO, Enduro's are simply just a series of harescrambles without having seen the course before.
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#544481 - 10/26/12 05:34 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Airwolf__32]
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I sure like the races with no practice! Whether its enduro or scramble, a cold start with no practice is fun!! and levels the field.
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#544635 - 10/29/12 03:19 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: BIZZZARE]
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Lynn provided good information on time-keeping events that people should know.

Opinions about venues are great, but that's not what I was after. Since you ask, I am very interested in opinions about sites, but the dynamics of that question are completely different than the question about types of races. Similarly I could ask "where would you like your free toilet made of solid gold delivered?" and the easy answer would be "my front door." The problem lies in the fact that the delivery company wants more than you're willing to pay to have it delivered your front door. So in turn they just sit and wait for you to come get it, only you're too lazy to drive that far to get it, so then it just sits there and the delivery company enjoys the toilet right where it's at. Are we understanding the metaphorical moral of the story?
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#544650 - 10/29/12 04:26 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Airwolf__32]
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shucks Andy
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#544665 - 10/29/12 06:02 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Ice Man]
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When will the tenative 2013 schedule be annouced?
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#544674 - 10/29/12 06:49 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: CRFaggie96]
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late november to december.
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#544695 - 10/29/12 08:40 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Ice Man]
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Time keeping events are great if level playing field, computers give an advantage for majority of riders who wanted to spend the 500.00 to have one, bt as Lynn said you still have to ride the trail. On enduros in the past most of the winners come from rows 1-5 with some never riding further back than row 1-3 and never have to pass more than a few riders to gain open trail. My point is rotate the rows so there's equal positioning. Hare srambkes move c class behind ' cranky old men' . Also if you have practice on Saturday have at least one parade lap on Sunday. I appreciate all the hardworking people that make the events happen and know 80% of the work comes from the same people, to teach those coming up and new & old members make everyone who races the series work at some capacity at least one event to be in points chase. Off my soap box.
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#544703 - 10/29/12 09:04 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: steve333]
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Steve

I like the way you think. Your points are well made and taken.

The practice on Saturday isn't something we do often and I'd love to implement a parade lap on Sunday. Just have to figure out how to do it to get everyone on their way home at a decent hour.
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#544741 - 10/30/12 12:38 AM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Ice Man]
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I think OCCRA had a rule like that, you had to officially work 1 event in order to be considered for a year end championship and award. Or maybe it was the way the points were set up, that it was super favorable to work one race and get like double the points of a first place finish, so everyone would work one race. I like those "incentive" plans.

If logic fails, how about we just offer free beer and chicken wings to trail workers AFTER they put down the machettes and chain saws? Im ok with race prices going up a couple bucks to cover the 'nourishment' costs.
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#544819 - 10/30/12 08:49 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Nacho Nate]
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Parade lap on Sunday plz!!!!
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#544950 - 11/01/12 10:16 AM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Airwolf__32]
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A mix of both types is good, and its what I voted for. Enduros just require a lot of manpower so the majority should be harescrambles. I think the Enduros we do run need to be longer.
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#544981 - 11/01/12 05:24 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Pullenmefinger]
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Actually we should pre run Gatorbait 2013, so an enduro before Gatorbait using a similar course like we did in 2012 is good practice for everyone.
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#545047 - 11/02/12 03:22 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Airwolf__32]
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Originally Posted By: Airwolf__32
Opinions about venues are great, but that's not what I was after. Since you ask, I am very interested in opinions about sites, but the dynamics of that question are completely different than the question about types of races. Similarly I could ask "where would you like your free toilet made of solid gold delivered?" and the easy answer would be "my front door." The problem lies in the fact that the delivery company wants more than you're willing to pay to have it delivered your front door. So in turn they just sit and wait for you to come get it, only you're too lazy to drive that far to get it, so then it just sits there and the delivery company enjoys the toilet right where it's at. Are we understanding the metaphorical moral of the story?


Just how much does it cost to have this solid gold toilet delivered?

Where can I pick mine up and how much does it weight?


:-p
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#545075 - 11/03/12 12:13 AM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Kenzo]
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It actually weighs very little and costs only a little time and sweat to have it delivered. The payoff is the personal satisfaction of knowing you went the extra distance to go get it.
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#545465 - 11/08/12 09:15 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Airwolf__32]
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One thing I loved about the old "timekeeper" family enduro is that it kept speeds down on the morning loop and allowed parents to ride with their kids in a semi competitive atmosphere. I don't know how you would enforce that in a restart format?

I guess you'd have to have a separate kids race like now.

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#547147 - 12/03/12 03:51 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: redflash]
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Originally Posted By: redflash
One thing I loved about the old "timekeeper" family enduro is that it kept speeds down on the morning loop and allowed parents to ride with their kids in a semi competitive atmosphere. I don't know how you would enforce that in a restart format?

I guess you'd have to have a separate kids race like now.


Great point! I was one of those kids and I loved being able to ride with my dad in a "race". Priceless memories.
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#547314 - 12/04/12 08:04 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: bam300xc]
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I will do my best to explain how we fit the re-start format concept into the TRH Family Enduro morning loop portion of the event. This might be too long of an explanation and I may drift, so please ask questions if anything is murky. The TRH family enduro that we had last March or April at SKull Creek, had a morning loop that was programmed exactly the same under the surface for checkpoint placement and timing as a timekeeper. It is not a point to point race. A parent and a young rider would typically have had the same exact score whether timekeeping with a rollchart and wristwatch or a re-start format on our family morning loop. The family loop is still designed to have the family ride together exactly the same as a timekeeper minus the timing equipment. The misconception is that the typical 12 mile family morning loop is a sprint that keeps the family that wants to ride together, whipped into a racing frenzy to the finish of the loop. As a comparison, the traditional timekeeper also normally started at a 12mph speed average (.2 miles per minute) with a "surprise" checkpoint at 3.0 or 3.2 miles that never really surprised anyone. The family would ride together up to the 2.9 mile marker and stop to allow time to catch up before proceeding to the secret checkpoint. Then the family of riders would ride for the next 3.0 miles without the risk of another secret checkpoint. The same exact scenario was played out at last year's re-start format family enduro except for all of the confused looks when stopping at 2.9 mile marker as Dad tried to line up the time from his wristwatch, odometer and rollchart timing information. The common result is for the family row of riders to arrive within a minute or two early of the scheduled time to spare in case someone has a tip over or trouble with the terrain. The goal was to have the kids arrive on time at the first checkpoint and get scored without losing late points and have a quick chance to bask in the glory, catch their breath or have Mom or Dad offer encouragement or goggle adjustment. This process is repeated over the next section of enduro course because the standard enduro rule is to have a 3.0 mile seperation after the last timed checkpoint to the next, so we left the "young kid obtainable" 12mph speed average in place so that the family could continue to ride together. If everyone had a banner day without a tip over, all scores are designed to be zero late points until the last three or so mile section. This is where we bump up the speed average to cause a few late points for the kids and beginner women so that they can be seperated for placement in there respective class. In the family portion of the enduro, this has always been typical of the last "test section". A timekeeper enduro has the same exact last "test section" to seperate class placement.
TRH has put a ton of thought in keeping the concept for a family enduro the same, but begin teaching the new re-start format. The only difference is that you do not need the timekeeping equipment to achieve the same family fun.

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#548355 - 12/23/12 07:39 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: lynnbailey24]
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I would like to help with TRH and do a AMSA/TRH or TRH/AMSA event in the Bastrop Rockne area. Let me know?

-Larry & Kyle

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#548382 - 12/24/12 04:30 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Airwolf__32]
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Originally Posted By: Airwolf__32
Out of curiosity, are there any series you know of that still run time-keeping events?

Yea, it looks like the majority is wanting a mix of both, but Harescrambles seems to have the larger popularity. IMO, Enduro's are simply just a series of harescrambles without having seen the course before.


There are still a few series around the country that will put on some time keepers - mostly to keep us old farts from complaining.

BJEC is in OK, MO, AR and is one series that still does a few. SERA in LA, MS, AL usually does 1 or 2. (but it is fading fast) - be glad you have some TRH folks that are willing to endure (pardon the pun) the extra effort to do TK's for you.
And if you have never volunteered to work - do it! Its a humbling experience and will give you a new appreciation for the workers that do this so YOU can ride em!

BTW - Thanks to those that work so hard to keep trails open and our sport alive!

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#550254 - 01/29/13 06:07 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: bam300xc]
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Originally Posted By: bam300xc
Originally Posted By: redflash
One thing I loved about the old "timekeeper" family enduro is that it kept speeds down on the morning loop and allowed parents to ride with their kids in a semi competitive atmosphere. I don't know how you would enforce that in a restart format?

I guess you'd have to have a separate kids race like now.


Great point! I was one of those kids and I loved being able to ride with my dad in a "race". Priceless memories.


I remember my 1st TRH Enduro (1988/89) with my dad (and twin brother) next to me on the starting line racing the Beginner class. (my 2nd TK enduro) We rode together for the 1st 10ft or so, then my brother and I checked out. We raced each other turn to turn and the first one to the check won that section. I remember sitting there with row 1 at the halfway point refueling stop, wondering why everyone was sitting around and not racing. We got bored/impatient and took off again. We started on Row 26 and my brother was the 1st to finish. I ended up clipping a tree and blowing out my ACL somewhere in the middle of the second half. I don't really remember my dad ever explaining the TK Enduro Rules to us, but that doesn't mean he didn't try. We were 13/14 and just wanted to go fast. My brother was the 1st to finish but they weren't even set-up because he was so early. I waited out in the woods 30 min. or so for my dad to come putting along. Supposedly he was on his minute and I ruined his race. But I did finally end up riding with my dad. I hoped on the back of his bike and he rode me out so I could get medical attention.

Found out later that my brother and I had been disqualified (houred out) by the 2nd check. To this day that was some of the most fun I had ever had.

Thanks Dad!
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#550258 - 01/29/13 08:11 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Pullenmefinger]
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^^cool story bro
No no thats really cool. We need to do some time keepers!
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#550343 - 01/30/13 08:26 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: CaD11]
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Eric, I know about that racing with the brother thing and only riding with you own kids compare. In the good ol' days you had a watch and watched for mileage markers, if you were lucky your bike had a speedometer and odo on it. (dang I miss those Honda SL's) I may (notice it says may) step up and chair an event. Do like we did back in the 70's run to your bike thats facing backwards and everyone has to wear jeans and open face helmets
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#550422 - 01/31/13 06:02 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: steve333]
Pullenmefinger Offline
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Registered: 11/24/08
Posts: 736
Loc: Webster, TX
Open face helmets might be a little dangerous, but I think my old Open Face Shoei is still hanging around somewhere and a JT Jofa Mouth guard. We need to retro-fit metal tanks and lock out our suspension to really get the true effect.
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#550499 - 02/01/13 02:34 PM Re: What kind of races would you like to see in 2013? [Re: Pullenmefinger]
steve333 Offline
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Registered: 03/20/02
Posts: 2582
Loc: katy,tx
open helmets had a shield and dust was just a part of riding. Bark busters were for sissy's. you had to lace up your boots or wear dingo boots and gloves came in one color tan with foam outlines on the fingers, camel back we a canteen, Thankgoodness for technology
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