I must admit....I for one was missing our race buddies, and I knew it was killing my hubby not going out there to race. I have heard Kenny is doing good after his ha. I've heard that he is waiting for stents to be put in or some sort...he is a family friend come to find out.....
After all of the racers and spectators got settled down after the excitement from that..BTW i do not think ANY KID should have been watching that episode. I don't care if you were their mothers or their babysitters....they didn't need to see it....
To add to my shock after that was the OPEN PRO MAIN race.... first off, you are not going to let them finish their race after only four laps?? ANy racer or race family knows that anything can happen and you not letting them finish their race was STUPID on your part!! Four laps is not a COMPLETE RACE! Besides, that the "GIRLS" could not even keep the order straight! They didn't know who was in first place as to who was last! And with everyone, including the racers themselves telling the girls they were wrong, the girls being their stupid selves telling everyone they had it right, when clearly they didn't. If they would've taken time to listen to everyone, they would've understood their mistake! And for the "main lineup girl" (not naming names) after they crashed for the second time, runs off ripping her headphones off and throwing everything up in the air....come on quit acting like a --! We feel that we are being punished for racing at other tracks, or owning our own.
Clearly the track has not changed since we decided not to race there anymore 4 months ago, it's probably just gotten worse if anything....obviously we won't be back until there are new people there, that actually know what they are doing. And to you "new" people working at the track now...just because you haven't seen us before..doesn't mean that we don't know what we are talking about. Maybe you guys should have to take some sort of test about the rules of flat track racing,..if you can pass it.
If all the attention wasn't so focused on the MOTORCYCLES, it could be better. Obviously there are way more quads that race there than moto's anyway. So Bob, truely what would you do if all the quads decided to boycott you, the way you have done them???
Maybe ALL THE QUADS should boycott to give your "know it all" staff a kick in the as*!!!!! It is a shame when we look back at the way the barn used to be, and to see now how far down it's went.
To all our other race family, we hope to see you guys somewhere else soon!!!

As a racer i have to agree with most of this. i was in the race there on saturday, and feel like i got screwed because of them calling off the race. I think if you own a race track then you should have some rules set up, maybe a rule book or somethin for the racers to read or a meeting before the race telling rules. Like if you spin out, bike dies, or you wreck causing a yellow flag or red flag more than once you should be DQ from the race, especially in a pro race, we are there racing for money and if we dont get to finish the race that is money that we just lost, and me i cant afford to be screwed over and have my money taken from me like harrah did. Another thing if you are gonna have staff working the race they should not be walking off the track cause of people wrecking, spinnin out and stuff. they are there to work the race and control who gets sent off the track for not knowing how to ride. So my thing is i will not show back up to Harrah anymore for a race. i raced Kellyville the following sunday and thought they had a nice set up and i loved the track it was my first time there and i will be racing there from now on. thanks yahoo for an awesome track, ill see everyone there the next race.

The Open Pro Quad race had 7 entries. It was one of 42 races held Saturday during the AMP OWN Indoor race.

We run under the same rules we have used for the AMP Series since 1982. Straight out of the AMA Racing Rule Book that governs Sportsman Amateur events.
http://www.ama-cycle.org/rulebooks/2009/AMA_Racing_rulebook09.pdf

Amendments to those rules:
http://quads.ampown.com/pdf/misc/General_Rules.pdf

Race officials can call a race after 60% completion, or at anytime if they feel the riders,
spectators or themselves are in danger.

The track officials at AMP work AMA Amateur Grands, VDTRA, CFP, and other races.
They have been officiated at Dirttrack races for many years. Those of you that
follow the circuit know them and see them at many events.
The head scorekeeper Nicalee, is also the President of the AIR Fund, Aid to Injured Riders
that provides financial assistance to injured AMA GNC riders.


Guys and Gals, we will not tollorate verbal threats, fighting, physical confrontations of the race officials, participants or anyone at the events. The Volunteer Fire department EMTs are licensed, and required to call the County Sheriff of any and all assaults or threats scene by them or reported to them. It is not a good to have fights as most the buildings and outdoor tracks used for Powersports events are rented. The venue owners have their own network, and word of these types of incidents spreads to them, and one day they may all decide not to allow Powersports events at all. We do not want that to happen, we have lost enough really nice tracks already.

Regarding the Heat Attack. We are very grateful to the Newalla Volunteer Fire Department's non-stop efforts to revive Kenny. These guys and gals are at every race, and are there to help save lives. They carry professional Life Support equipment, including De-Fib and Resusitation gear. Had they not been on site, as they are at each and every event we produce, I believe we would of lost Kenny. Kenny required an unbelieveble Nine hits from the De-Fib Machine while at the Arena, and an additional two in route and another at the ER room at the hospital. While Nine Lives is a common term, Kenny had 13 that night. He has been released from the hospital. He had a previous triple by-pass cardiac surgery two years prior.

Regading Bikes vrs Quads. Purse for each regular points night is the same for both divisions. The two AMP OWN Specials for the Motorcycles with additional guaranteed money for the purse comes from outside sponsors, two who wish to remain anonymous. Those people like Motorcycle racing and donate money for those races. No one has approached us thus far with doing that for the Quads. At each round where possible we hold a 50/50 Dash For Cash . Most times it goes t the largest pro class, other times we pull cash out of the gate money for the DFC. Quads and Bikes are both eligible.

you say you go by rules thats great you should stick to them then. we didnt even race 60% of the race so that means you should not have called the race, instead you should have disqualified the riders that wrecked and were causing the problems from the begining. and with racing comes danger its our choice to be out there and racing so you should let us race. i was out in the front of the pack and was not in any danger so you should have just let us race our race and let it be fair. i got other tracks to go to so i dont have to worry about racing under your sorry rules that you say you go by.

First off by AMA Rules, I as promoter are not allowed to be a race official. The race officials make the calls on the track. No one brought any complaint to me regarding the stoppage of that race. Once the head scorekeeper posted the official finish the purse was paid. The danger was not to the racers or spectators but to the race official that was assaulted. Rule reads the race may be called complete if 60%, OR if there is a safety concern regarding the course, or riders, spectators or officals safety. After four red flags on the same number of laps. And due to the incident with the assualt on the female Race Official, and the increase in hostility from a number of people towards the race officials, that was ample cause for the race officials to call that a race and score it accordingly.

After producing 84 races at the OK Corral over the past 6 years I feel based on the information I received from the Race Officials, Volunteer Fire Department and the Sheriffs that they made the proper decision.

Man!!! I must have totally blacked out or something???? I don't recall anyone being physically assaulted.... Bob...quit bs-ing and realize that your guys and GALS tend to go by their own rules at times, which is why you keep losing some damn good racers. If you were out there where you were supposed to be, then you could have stopped it all, and maybe straightened it all out....but once again you were unable to be found. It is like as soon as the motorcycles are done, so are you.... Huh and in reality we all know who the "anonomous" sponsors are...we are not stupid..like you think we are. And as to our knowledge..the cops were there because of the aruging, not because someone was "assaulted". Again, if they would have done their job in the first place, it would have been easily avoided. Even if Nicalee is president of whatever, who cares. She of all people should not run off ripping things off of her and acting like a baby. The only reason the race was called is because they wrecked again. Which they should have restarted, not called the race. That was BS and everyone knows it.... I don't care what you have to say about it BOB, you of all people have no say so... you WEREN'T out there!!!! If you plan to RUN a race, don't you think you should be out there at ALL times??? Even when kenny collapsed, you were nowhere....what does that say about you??? I'm glad my life wasn't waiting on you! Or anyone else I know for that fact.

BTW...Bob, you don't even hang up our signs that our sponsors give you....What's up with that?? If your not going to hang them up, maybe you should give them back to us, so that our "new" tracks can hang them up. We know they aren't ashamed to support us.

wow thought about racing this series next winter, but looks like my mind has been made up now. man that sucks. thought it could be a good series to get into. GUESS NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

asohagan; What signs are you speaking of? Perhaps John the Starter may have knowledge of the signs your are referring to. We have always allowed powersports related signs to be displayed, but we don't typically provide the labor of hanging or removing the signs. Most race teams display their sponsors signs in their pit areas.

sparkytrx08, Notice you only have 3 posts on this forum. This series has been running for seven years. We have had over 780 participants compete, paid out thousands in purse and trophy awards, plus over a 4 thousand in Dash For Cash awards in the past six years.

Come find out for your self why the series has attracted that many riders, and been in existance since 1982.

Sorry about the post, but I would hate to drive that far and my race get called. Really no matter what happens the race should not be called until the situation is worked out. Should have had a meeting with the racers first is all I am saying. Where I live is just so far from any decent race series, and I dont like putting up money for a race, and then get taken out of the mix because of some one elses decision. Everywhere I do race: if there is an issue with things happen on or off the track, the track officials have allways come to us and worked the problems out, IF it cannot be worked out the everyone should agree to have it called. Wrecks are one thing, but if someone is causing all the wrecks then that person should be dq'd for that race. Dont ruin it for everyone. Quads cost alot more money to buy, seutup, and build than bikes, so if there becomes problems for a race of the quads, it just needs to be talked about and try to work the issues out. That is all I am saying about the issues I have seen for the race on the 23rd. I dont know your rules and I dont run the races, but I would have liked to heard or seen the situation worked out in a different way is all.

I understand that, no problem. I typically call all the riders in a class in question into the office. We have done that a few times before to hammer out problems. Had the situation been different we would of addressed it in that manner. I wish it could of been worked out as well.

My fix would of first been to stagger start the field with more space between on the 3rd restart. Possibly DQ the offending riders that spun unassisted, or continued to collide with others.

Dont let a few bad apples spoil you. Alot of the threats were made by pee wee dads and moms that thinks they are racing instead of their kids. The Amp seires has been going on for years and years. Some people still dont understand that indoor racing is close racing, and with that you will have alot of bumping and grinding. If you dont understand that, then you should not race indoor events. Bob has done more for racing in oklahoma than any person has in the past 30 years. Its hard to please everybody, so he does the best he can with what he has to work with. The problem asohagen has is I dont think they understand that racing will kill you. Some people think it a baseball game. So asohagen if you think you can get all quads to boycott the races, your as stupid as your post

lol!!!! like that. Yea I know it is close. Heck we race a 1/4 mile and it too can get close at times. When money is on the line is the only time it might get a little hectic. But the way I look at is hey I would rather just back off and be safer than to try to win 100.00 dollars. there is allways another race on down the road to try to win. the 1/4 mile we race can be deadly if you bump and grind. Ask Lonnie. HE didnt hit anyone, but was just trying to avoid them, and liked to have ended his career. Lonnie is the man is all I can say. The speeds we carry into the corners is very excessive at times. I race long flat tracks for that reason. I wanted to get into the short track series to gear up for the crashes and extreme close racing that I will deal with in the extreme dirt track racing in 2011. maybe next year I can make it to the amp series. hope yall have a good rest of the season without all the mayhem that has come from just 1 race this season.. Good Luck Too ya!!!!!

I have been racen quads for 10 years and have not seen a race called or stop. The second restart should have been single file and the race oreder was never right. I would like to know the reason the pro quads were stoped. I don't race there anymore because of the bs that goes on. The quads get the shity end of the deal when they are the ones who put on the good races. We never get the dash for cash unless we go out and collect our own donations. The quad I was there to see was second twice and keep gettin put on the back if they would have single file restarted and the positons were right it may have changed the out come. I only got to see 20% of the race so can I get an 80% refund lol. I like the fact we have somewhere to race the barn is great I just wish it was ran a little differnt.And as far as nicalee goes... she does a great job at reg. and scoring... but she can not do it all!!!she cant watch the line to score and know what goes on behind her. It would be a great improvement if there was someone there just to watch the race and now all the rules that could help her out. As far as who is recking and in what place and how many laps and when it should be single file.And also I know that the karts are a great show as well... would be awesome if the had a dfc every once in a while as well as the quads.. Just some suggestions Bob.

And btw...nobody was phisically assulted....She was asked the next day by one of are riders wifes at kellyville. And she said he pointed at her..He didnt touch her...just to clear that up!

wow did i pick the wrong night to get married and miss this race!!! sounds like some stuff went down!!!

First race of this season we paid $400 in DFC both to the Open Pro Quad and the Open Pro Motorcycle. Every round we pay the DFC to the largest Pro Class. On select weekends we may have two DFC races.

May need to understand the definition of these words in regards to an Assault.

Assault and battery is the combination of two violent crimes:
Assault (the verbal threat of violence)
Battery (physical violence)

Rules for Blue Motor Karts at AMP OWN
O D K R A
Oklahoma Dirt Kart Racing Association
BLUE MOTOR CLASS
GENERALRULES.
KART MUST BE IN GOOD WORKING ORDER. MUST HAVE HYDRAULIC BRAKES, NO FRONT BRAKES ACCEPTED. MUST HAVE AN EASY TO GRAB SPARK PLUG WIRE (WITH A LARGE ZIP-TIE POINTED UP). NO BATTLE BARS WILL BE ACCEPTED AND BARS MUST BE COVERED. GO KART AND THE DRIVER MUST WEIGH A MINIMUM OF 350LBS. MUST BE PULL CORD STARTED, AND RAN ON PUMP GASOLINE(NO RACING GASOLINE).
MOTOR RULES
MOTOR MUST BE A CLONE OF A HONDA GX200 SERIES SUCH AS (CHICAGO MACHINE, GRAY HOUND, LIFAN, ZIN DANG). (THAT CAN BE BOUGHT AT HABOR FREIGHT OR ON LINE)
MOTOR MUST BE STOCK WITH NO AFTER MARKET OR HONDA PARTS AS THIS IS A CLONE CLASS. PRE OR POST LAWSUIT MOTORS ARE ACCEPTABLE. NO MACHINING, GRINDING, OR WELDING OF ANY KIND WILL BE TOLERATED. ALL GOVERNOR PARTS CAN BE REMOVED EXCEPT FOR THE GEAR ON THE CRANKSHAFT. HEADERS CAN BE USED, MANUFACTURED OR HAND MADE. STOCK AIR BOX MUST BE USED, BUT AIR FILTER ELEMENT MAY BE CHANGED. NO BORED OUT CARBERATOR, OR STACKED GASKETS INSIDE CARB. STOCK IGNITION AND STOCK TIMING(NO OFFSET KEYWAY). SPARK PLUG MAY BE CHANGED. NO E TUBE CHANGING(JET CHANGING ACCEPTABLE).
TIRES
MUST BE SLICKS NO CUTTING OF SIPING.
MOTOR CLAIM
ONLY THE TOP THREE FINISHING ORDER MOTORS CAN BE CLAIMED. LAST IN THE FINISHING ORDER HAS THE FIRST OPTION TO CLAIM ANY OR ALL THE TOP THREE FINSIHING MOTORS AT $200 PER MOTOR.
TECH
TOP THREE FINISHING POSITIONS GO DIRECTLY TO THE TECH AREA AFTER THE FEATURE. IF YOU REFUSE TECH YOU FORFIET THE POINTS AND THE PURSE.
RACERS
RACER MUST WEAR DRIVER SUIT OR AN EXCEPTION OF DENIM PANTS AND A HEAVY JACKET. NECK BRACE HELMET AND GLOVES ARE REQUIRED.

If you have any questions just email me at: tophand@cox.net

THESE ARE 3DRACEWAYS 2010 SEASON RULES. THESE RULES ARE THE AKRA NATIONAL KNOWN RULES. WITH THE ODKRA RULES,YOU DONT HAVE A SPECIFIC CAM RULE THAT YOU GO BY. THERE IS A NUMBER OF STOCK CAMS THAT WILL FIT AND MAKE THE MOTOR STILL HAVE STOCK LIFT.


OHV CLONE RULES

APPROVED ENGINES--OHV engines generally referred to as Clones with a maximum displacement of 200cc's. (current legal engines include the Lifan, Grey Hound, Harbor Freight blue & yellow, Jaingdong, Yamakoyo, Blue Max)

ENGINE SPECIFIC TECH SHEET FOR BOX STOCK 6.5 OHV

Single cylinder, 2 valve, ohv 4 cycle

Important note: All parts must be Box Stock factory production parts unless otherwise specified in these rules. NO MACHINING OR ALTERATION OF PARTS IS ALLOWED UNLESS SPECIFICALLY NOTED. All parts will be subject to comparison to a known box stock part( when performing comparison check it is recommended to use a +/-.005" tolerance.) Engine will be teched as raced. There will also be a $200 claiming rule in place for this engine. Refusing to accept the claimer will result immediate disqualification of competitor along with forfeiture of 1/2 points earned to date in class and suspended for 2 races. Second time offense: you will be moved out of the class.

COMBUSTION CHAMBER VOLUME: 27.5 cubic centimeter minimum, with piston at TDC<using prescribed procedure.

CYLINDER HEAD REQUIREMENTS: must be OEM casting only. Porting and /or grinding are not permitted. Valve seals are two angles,45 degrees valve face and 30 degrees top relief. Stock head bolts only, must have four. Head gaskets maybe after market, must be of stock configuration. No copper or aluminum gaskets allowed. Any stock configuration gasket allowed on exhaust, no other sealer.

BORE $ STROKE: Stock cylinder bore is 2.685" max. Stroke is 2.123"+/-.005.

CARBURETOR REQUIREMENTS: Huayi or RUI*ING model carb only. Carb to intake sealer is gasket only no other sealer allowed. Choke must be as supplied from factory, but may be fixed to stay in open position. Choke bore .810 NO-GO. Venturi .615"NO-GO. Rear carb bore .751"NO-GO. Main fuel jet up to .042 NO-GO. Stock air cleaner assembly only.

If you are running a floor mounted tank, Pulse type fuel pumps are allowed. Fuel pump must be pulsed from either the crank case or the valve cover. You must install a flat metal plate in the original tank location for the purpose of mounting the throttle linkage and fuel pump.

VALVE TRAIN: Stock valve cover only with any stock configuration gasket, no sealer. Factory sealer rocker arms and push rods only. Stock valves only 45 degree angle on both valves, no modifications allowed. Only Box Stock valve springs . Max wire diameter on spring wire is .0698" with a maximum tension of 10.8lbs. at a height of .850".

IGNITION SYSTEM: Stock Box Sysytem only and must be unaltered. Kill switch and low oil sensor may be disabled and removed.


FLYWHEEL: Box Stock flywheel only with plastic fins. No alterations of any type allowed. Must also run stock flywheel key. Minimum bare wieght is 8.2lbs. Pull rope may be removed to make it accessible for use with a starter box.

PISTON AND RINGS: Must be unaltered Box Stock only. NO MACHINING OF ANY TYPE ALLOWED.

CONNECTING ROD: Stock Box rod only. NO MACHINING OF ANY TYPE ALLOWED. Stock rod bolts only.

CRANKSHAFT REQUIREMENTS: Stock Box crankshaft equired. MACHINING< POLISHING< ADDITION OF MATERIAL OR OTHER ALTERATION OF CRANKSHAFT IS PROHIBITED. Stock factory timing gear mandatory and must be installed in original location. Crankshaft journal diameter is 1.180"-1.175"min.

CAMSHAFT REQUIREMENTS: Stock as cast camshaft only. See profile listed below. THe following Box Stock Cam Profile is NOW recognized by the Box Stock Project.

Box Stock Cam Profile Specs

EXHAUST
.020 LIFT 50 DEG BBDC
.050 LIFT 27 DEG BBDC
.100 LIFT 11 DEG BBDC
.150 LIFT 8 DEG ABDC
.200 LIFT 33 DEG ABDC
MAX LIFT .232 OFF CAM
.200 LIFT 64 DEG BTDC
.150 LIFT 37 DEG BTDC
.100 LIOFT 19 DEG BTDC
.050 LIFT 1 DEG BTDC
.020 LIFT 17 DEG ATDC
CENTER LINE 109 +/-3DEG

INTAKE
.020 LIFT 14 DEG BTDC
.050 LIFT 5 BDEG ATDC
.100 LIFT 23 DEG ATDC
.150 LIFT 45 DEG ATDC
.200 LIFT 74 DEG ATDC
MAX LIFT .225 OFF CAM
.200 LIFT 34 DEG BBDC
.150 LIFT 7 DEG BBDC
.100 LIFT 14 DEG ABDC
.050 LIFT 33 DEG ABDC
.020 LIFT 52 DEG ABDC
CENTER LINE 109+/- 3 DEG

MAX LIFT .242 ON EXHAUST TAKEN ON VALVE SPRING RETAINER WITH ZERO LASH.

MAX LIFT .238 ON INTAKE TAKEN ON VALVE SPRING RETAINER WITH ZERO LASH.

USE +/- 3 DEG ON ALL LIFT CHECKS

block requirements: Block must remain stock as produced. Stub for governor may be removed and hole plugged. NO MSCHINING OF BLOCK ALLOWED. Welding to the block shall be for rod damage repair only and may not constitute a functional modification.

CLAIMER RULE: You must finish the race in the Box Stock class to purchase the winners engine for $200 (minus the clutch/chain guard, throttle kit, header pipe/muffler, air filter adaptor,air filter, top plate & fuel pump.) ONly the top three are alloawed to be claimed. The protest fee is $50.00 and if you protest you must tear down also. Any illegal parts found will be confiscated and kept by the promoter.

http://www.flattrack.com/index.php?optio...686&catid=3
I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW A LITTLE MORE ABOUT NICALEE AND A.I.R. Oops, sorry for yelling

they need to go by the rules and enforce the rules like pros in pro classes if you ride pro then you are not allowed to ride in a am class like alot of you do....just because you own a quad and have been in 1 race and think hey i could do this for money instead of a trophy your wrong..... and yes we all have been hurt racing and seen friends get hurt if the track official stops a race then he must have a reason mabe a am rider in a pro class or a bunch of ams in a pro class just cant get it together..pros conduct themselves in a professinal manor and if there is a problem you need to act like a pro and talk to the official and mabe get the whole class there and mabe the track ppl will see it your way and have a race....so mabe eveyone that signs up as a am should have to win 3 races in a row to move up to pro just a thought........


Ed Whitney pro quad 76

Ed makes a great point.And the number1 rule at any track is the race offical has the final say no matter what the reason!

WHEN THE CHECKER FLAG DROPS,THE BULL **** STOPS!
LEAVE IT ON THE TRACK.
Lets race and have fun.That's why we're here!

Amen, Ed

The American Motorcyclist Association does not train or certify
officials who preside over AMA sanctioned standard competition
events. Participants are solely responsible for their own safety. All
officials must be members of the AMA.
A. Referee
1. The Referee is the principal officer of a meet, acting as
general supervisor. He does not, however, carry out the
duties of any other official. The Referee must be
introduced at the rider’s meeting and be available
throughout the protest period. It is the promoter’s
responsibility to appoint a Referee who is well qualified.
The Referee may not compete in the meet.
2. The Referee’s duties are:
a. To determine if any changes in the course are
necessary.
b. To request the official sanction from the promoter and
to post it at the registration area.
c. To determine if all other appropriate officials are
present, and to ensure they are performing their
duties properly.
d. To direct the starter to black flag a rider for any safety
reasons, including excessive oil leaking from the
motorcycle, mufflers that are loose or not working
properly, parts hanging from a motorcycle, loose
number plates, etc.
e. To provide for technical inspection of equipment used
by the riders, and to bar any equipment that does not
conform to standards.
f. To receive and decide all protests subject to appeal