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#224673 - 03/21/06 12:12 AM Rv vs. Trailer??
z215 Offline
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Registered: 09/20/01
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Loc: Cowtown
Looking at buyin either an RV or a work and play type trailer. Any help on the pros and cons would be appreciated. it will be used for races and family trips. As far as trailers go I am looking for ideas on what I can pull with a 1/2 ton pick up...Need to get a new truck, but dont want to spend on the 3/4 ton....Any input helpful.....needs to sleep 5 in some form and haul at least 3 bikes...TIA
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#224674 - 03/21/06 04:15 PM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: z215]
ktmlance Offline
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Registered: 08/18/04
Posts: 966
Loc: Watauga, TX
your options are:
1. motorhome with bike trailer, no vehicle once you arrive. can use toilet and kitchen, beds on the road.
2. toy hauler, can't pull with 1/2 ton truck, bikes will be outside when you need to use rv. gas cans stored inside your trailer and bikes have gas in trailer with refrigerator, stove, water heater and associated flames and fire dangers.
3. Small rv with bikes in back of the truck, bikes uncovered when towing but you can still use rv without unloading bikes etc...
4. Larger RV with small 3 rail behind rv. Hard to back without unhooking 2nd trailer but, extra gear storage in back of truck.
5. Pickup with bikes in back and popup trailer
6. Tent, truck, trailer for bikes, likely already doing this. NO AC.

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#224675 - 03/21/06 06:34 PM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: ktmlance]
TomXR400 Offline
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Registered: 02/17/05
Posts: 163
Loc: Fort Worth, TX
I've done option 6, and right now I do option 5. Looking to move up to option 3 soon...

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#224676 - 03/22/06 12:55 AM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: TomXR400]
kozzer1 Offline
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Registered: 02/09/03
Posts: 257
Loc: Gun Barrel City, Texas
Hey Tom,

We are looking into getting a popup before long. Since you have some experience with one what suggestions, advice would you give when looking for a used one.

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#224677 - 03/22/06 05:55 AM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: kozzer1]
TomXR400 Offline
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Registered: 02/17/05
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Loc: Fort Worth, TX
Make sure the wood in the top is not rotten. Check the bearings and repack them before you take it too far. The a/c unit with the heater option is nice. Other than that just realize that it will be hot in the summer even if you have a/c, and most likely you won't be able to shower. We bought ours from a consignment place that checked it over before it was resold. (i.e. they checked all the gas lines, and other important items) We might be looking to sell soon.

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#224678 - 03/22/06 07:31 PM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: z215]
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I would think you could find a small toy hauler that you could pull behind a 1/2 ton truck but not sure ...

if you got an equalizer type hitch with sway protection, that might help with off loading tongue weight but if you get a regular travel trailer (non hauler type), remember with 3 bikes (full size) you will already have about 750 lbs in the bed before hooking on to a trailer and most travel trailers have a pretty heavy tongue weight (equalizer hitch would help). you need to check the GVW on the truck and towing capacity before deciding on what you buy trailerwise. I wouldn't think a 3/4 ton wouldn't be all that much more expensive over a 1/2 ton (relatively speaking) and you get much more heavy duty towing capacity.

either way you go, your fuel consumption while pulling a trailer will be pretty poor unless you opt for a diesel (then you pay more for the vehicle up front and more per gallon for the fuel but should last you much longer with fewer repairs).

while my son was riding the enduro circuit, we opt'd for the bikes in the truck and a tent for the majority of the races since they ranged from 150 to 600 miles from home (80+mph with a RV in tow for 5-8 hours not a good idea). now that he isn't racing for points, and we make family outings, we got a bumper pull 28' travel trailer with slide that says it will sleep 6 (but they better be really friendly in the table and couch converted to beds, so 4 adults comfortably) and can get 3 full size bikes in the truck bed (dodge diesel quadcab longbed 3/4 ton), take the whole family and still average about 14 mpg unless bucking a head wind. we haven't tried 3 bikes and generator yet, but 2 work fine. likewise, for shorter trips, I don't even worry about the equalizer/sway hitch on my 3/4 ton but do use for longer trips. now the wife doesn't mind going with us since she has a traveling conveniences of home (almost).

the toy haulers are a great idea but there are some draw backs as stated earlier, but some do have onboard fuel stations built in, so no gas cans for the bikes needed (so just fumes off the bikes). also onboard generator would be nice too.

likewise, be very leary of tandem towing two trailers and I would only do if the front trailer was a gooseneck/5th wheel. I recall someone posted a year or so back about tandem towing two bumper pull trailers was illegal in TX but I can't find the law on that anywhere.

let us know which route you decide on going...
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#224679 - 03/24/06 02:28 AM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: z215]
yamahasix Offline
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Registered: 11/13/05
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I have a 28' rv with a motorcycle carrier on the back and i put my 4 wheeler in the pickup. I pull this with my 1/2 ton Z71 with no problems.
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#224680 - 03/24/06 02:44 AM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: yamahasix]
kozzer1 Offline
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Registered: 02/09/03
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Loc: Gun Barrel City, Texas
What type of motorcycle carrier do you have on the trailer?
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#224681 - 03/27/06 01:43 AM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: kozzer1]
yamahasix Offline
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I do not remember the braand name but is the type that goes into a receiver hitch and it is mad of alluminim. I had a receiver built for my trailer so i could put my bike on the back. It really works great.
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#224682 - 03/27/06 11:00 PM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: z215]
jstepter Offline
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Registered: 01/07/04
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Loc: Spring Branch (Hill Country)
Actually there are several Toy Haulers that work behind a 1/2 ton. I just bought a FK2100 Superlite by Weekend Warrior (04 model) Ragen (owned by WW) makes the same models.

I have pulled it now about 2000 miles. 5.3 and 5.7 liter engines

It has a gvw of 7650, and a Unloaded Veichel weight of 4150 (according to the brochure) I figure it is more like 4500.

My tahoe, and my truck are both rated at 7900 (one driver no gear)

PUt a couple thousand lbs in the trailer, it is 6500, (I figure 4 bikes, water riding gear, and fuel)

and you still have 1000 for the truck (4 overweight guys) or my family at about 600 lbs.

It has a fuel station tank built in that means no gas in the trailer (other than the bikes)

We have pulled it from California empt (no toys, just camping), and last weekend went loaded to a riding park. the Truck strained a bit in the 40 mph head wind, but it also has 180,000 miles on it:)

The Tahoe with the 5.3 pulled it great. I will probably buy a 1/2 ton HD chevy with a 6.0 for the next vehicle, but it works with what I have right now.

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#224683 - 09/05/07 01:11 AM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: z215]
JoeyDawg Offline
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Registered: 01/25/07
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Loc: Waxahachie, Texas
We have a 19ft Attitude Toy Hauler that we tow behind a Ford F-150 with sway bars, we towed it behind a Silverado and did not do well so we traded the Chevy.... We have a family of 4 but often two other family members tag along. We have on one or two occasions camped without motorcycles or extra family.... WOW we didnt know it was possible to camp without dirtbikes, lots of room! We have a queen bed that raises to the ceiling during the day out of the way, table - bed, couch - bed, and room for 2 cots, one behind the table - bed area and one in the kitchen area. Granted no one better need to get up in the night to use the restroom. So in a pinch it sleeps 6. We would like a bigger bathroom but definately better than a porta potty. Great air conditionr, tv / DVD player, oven, microwave, refrig, hot water, little storage. We have once carried 4 dirtbikes AND a 4 wheeler. When we are sleeping we have the motorcycles and bicycles secured with a cable wire that we secure to the truck. ALWAYS secure your bikes and bicycles cuz they do somehow walk away. On board gas so no gas cans..... That's about it....... It works for us!


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#224684 - 10/01/07 06:50 PM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: z215]
dsfnmsw Offline
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Registered: 12/04/02
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I have a Jayco Baja pop-up. It has AC, Heat, A king size bed, a full size bed, and a small bed for kids. It also has a rack on the front that will hold 2 full size bikes without trouble. I have had 2 full size bikes, a pw80 and a generator on that rack before. Best of all, I can pull it with my 4Runner with no trouble. Other brands that have the similar set-ups are fleetwood evolution and starcraft Rt.

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#224685 - 11/11/07 03:20 AM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: dsfnmsw]
EnduroRdr Offline
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Registered: 10/06/06
Posts: 446
Loc: Tomball TX
I pull a Carson Fun Runner with 1/2 ton truck. (I dont go over 70 very often, fuel economy really drops off bad)
I creatively load it with 5 bikes and a small 4 wheeler and we sleep 6 (well we take up the entire floor with air matrices) Mine is 18 ft but the make a 16 that is even lighter.
Best of all it sells new for under 10K. (add about 800 for rooftop a/c) The problem is there are no dealers in TX. If your lucky you may find a used one like I did.
http://www.carsontrailer.com/subs/trailers/rv_sport/pull_front_kitchen/fl_pull_kitchen.html
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Pros vs Cons:
Motorhomes require additional ins. to drive them. - Trailers usually are covered with your car/truck policy.
Motorhomes usually have generator - trailers usually not.
Motorhomes, another motor to keep in tune and maintain - trailers pretty much just tires and wash it.

I will do the motorhome thing one day but for now trailers are easier on the budget.


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#224686 - 12/15/07 01:00 AM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: z215]
rjacobs Offline
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Registered: 09/10/06
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Loc: Leander, Texas
Camped in a tent last year. Just bought a Starcraft 11RT and have had it out three times. Hauler on front of trailer has enough room for two bikes and a generator. Trailer has air conditioner, queen up front, full in the back with heated mattresses. Wife loves the toilet and shower versus the porta potty and damp rags. Pulling it with an Avalanche Z-71 with no problems. Full mileage dropped from 24 mph without trailer to 19 mph without headwind. There very light and affordable.
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#224687 - 03/18/08 12:36 PM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: rjacobs]
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I am also trying to decide between a travel trailer or a toy hauler, the wife really likes the comfort of the travel trailer so my issue is the generator.......What brand/model have you guys found that work and arent they pretty loud??? I also will be pulling with a 1/2 ton.

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#224688 - 03/18/08 06:12 PM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: JTBCR250]
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look up a few posts for my comments dealing with the trailers for what they are worth...

not all generators are overly loud but most of the cheaper ones are pretty loud. if you have close neighbors, they will not like you with the loud generator. the first one I had sounded like a harley straight piped (very loud), so anytime we needed to use it, I would park as far away from others as possible. the one I have now isn't as loud but there are still much quieter models available. I have seen some of the little Honda gensets that are really pretty quiet (relatively speaking) that work pretty nicely. for most, a 4000w (that has a surge up to around 5-5.5K) will work for most applications but I wouldn't advise running a microwave while the a/c is on... might trip a breaker. but as price goes up, the quality usually goes up and sound level goes down from what I have seen.

if money wasn't an object, personally I would opt for a 5th wheel (which I would put a gooseneck adapeter on immediately) toy hauler with separate garage but once you get into something that big, I probably would also opt for a 1 ton dually tow vehicle due to the top heavieness and sidewards roll ...
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#406728 - 03/31/09 03:27 PM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: pmkkdx]
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Loc: College Station, TX
Some toy haulers have separate quarters, so you can sleep w/out unloading the bikes. I have an on board gen.
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#411296 - 04/24/09 07:08 PM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: CR3999]
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Registered: 01/30/07
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We have a 30' R-Wagon toy hauler. Pull it behind our 02 5.4L Excursion or our 95 4wd F150 with a 5.8 with no problems. It has seperate sleep and bike areas. My only gripe is the bathroom s too small for me, but the wife and kid use it just fine.
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#412842 - 05/03/09 05:37 PM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: AlecsDad]
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On the double towing issue, I've done the research and talked to law enforcment directly and you can double tow in TX. I've done it with a 2 bumper pull trailers and the problem I had was the back trailer trying to "tail wag" over speeds of 60mph. It was fine there though but if I do it I'm about 5 feet over legal length.

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#413357 - 05/06/09 03:12 AM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: JTBCR250]
EnduroRdr Offline
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Registered: 10/06/06
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Loc: Tomball TX
Originally Posted By: JTBCR250
I am also trying to decide between a travel trailer or a toy hauler, the wife really likes the comfort of the travel trailer so my issue is the generator.......What brand/model have you guys found that work and arent they pretty loud??? I also will be pulling with a 1/2 ton.


I have an older Yamaha 2300. Pretty quiet and reliable for over 15 years now, but if I ever buy another one I'm going for the Honda 2000 that looks like a suit case. I almost tripped over one last year in the dark at a camp site it was so quiet! The are around grand - pricey but you pay for quiet. 2000 watts will run all my stuff including a/c and fridge. Don't go too big, you just waste gas, it costs more to buy and break you back loading it - unless you need one for other uses that needs to be that big.

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#490657 - 01/11/11 12:12 PM Re: Rv vs. Trailer?? [Re: jstepter]
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RVs particularly user friendly going down the road, Rvs are a more economical to buy than trailers, Honestly saying go with RV's

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